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Re: IMDb Update Issues (New TV series)

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:17 pm

Check now, went through with updating Sponge Bob Seasons 3-5 manually. Still need to review and go through the balance of the English side.

There are many reasons behind this type of sequence issue, for this series and many others. These include such as operator error, system glitches, comm issues and timeouts, non IMDB season and episode sequencing from alternate providers such as NF, AMZN, HULU….

OPERATOR ERRORS:
Review the Unclassified Section, and you will note a previous user who uploaded to Season 2, exceeding the actual episode count for that particular season:

https://www.opensubtitles.org/en/search ... /redir-off

Will not parse on batch upload and reroutes to unclassified. Has the potential for overrun into the next season 3 depending on upload parameters, and skew the order.

or

https://www.opensubtitles.org/en/subtit ... il-fail-en

where this file naming does not agree with the episode. Many instances of multiple vignettes within a single episode being identified as multiple episodes instead of one, such as this case of S13E47E48 instead of singly to the IMDB S13E19. If and when the individual vignettes are segmented apart for the specific portion of the episode, then identification would list as S13E19a, S13E19b, etc……

This example worked only because the user properly uploaded to the correct individual IMDB ID, and not by batch upload and parse. Note that there are only 26 episodes for that particular season, not 47 and 48.

Future ID updates and parsing though, could have issues when it comes across mis-IDs and can throw series sync out of whack.

General Guidelines Uploading:

NON IMDB SEQUENCE:
Check and confirm IMDB season and episode agreements to subtitles before submitting. Much more difficult to correct after the fact.

Many users grab IDs straight off one of the services, using the season and episode designations from the provider. Many times these do not agree with IMDB, and can throw off the whole season-episode order when interspersed with the uploads that follow IMDB convention. Just because AppleTV says it’s season 1 episode 5, doesn’t make it so. Make sure to use “IMDB” season and episode numbering and ID.

NAMING NOMENCLATURE:
Many occurrences of wrong episode routing due to naming convention. Name an episode in the format of SxxEyy such as S01E05, S12E01, S03E22 to avoid parse issues. DO NOT add additional numeric values such as dates or IMDB ID "tt" numbers as some users do. This can create errors in parse.

DO NOT NAME EXAMPLE: 19-2.2016.EP3.5.tt5179050.Protest.Pants.DVD.ACORN:
https://www.opensubtitles.org/en/search ... id-5179050
there is no way the DB can process and parse with such a ridiculous naming convention.

COMM ISSUES:
Have seen instances when comm or timeouts occur with 503 or 524 error codes, either an unclassified data dump or a mis-id can occur. In almost all cases, the files have uploaded properly, just access and review your user profile uploads, and verify that all is correct. Keeping batch uploads in the 10-20 count will usually work fine on existing OS structure. For new series on OS, create the initial structure with one or two episodes prior to batch attempts.

CONTRIBUTORS:
If and when you note issues with uploads, you can perform corrections and updates on those subtitles that you own, by following guidelines in the following:

viewtopic.php?t=2595

For issues due to other uploads causing havoc and sequence issues, you can use the contact link at the bottom of the page. Please include all pertinent data and links, along with details of the issue.
Last edited by mrtinkles on Sun Feb 04, 2024 4:17 am, edited 5 times in total.

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Re: IMDb Update Issues (New TV series)

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:18 pm

Thanks OSS, will follow up when I review the balance of the series for additional errors. Season 2 needs to be completely re-ordered as existing is out of sync.

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Re: IMDb Update Issues (New TV series)

Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:34 am

Thanks <3

All subs were checking out perfectly now.

PS: Thanks in particular to mrtinkles for the great writeup (will keep). Time permitting and provided I get my hands on it, I'll check s2 as well...

Edit/PS2: Yes, IMDB Update on single ones also works wonders. Thanks scooby007!


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Re: IMDb Update Issues (New TV series)

Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:46 pm

tedi,

Please note previous comment to you dated 11-22-2023 regarding IMDB glitches with new releases.

The subtitles that you have referenced were submitted just today, we are already aware of and are tracking.

For reference, recent changes in IMDB coding and report protocol can possibly create some issues with newer releases. In these instances, visibility will lag behind on OS for possibly one or two days.

Since you are uploading predominately new releases, many of these precede IMDB creation. In the cases where you pull new numbers as commented on 1-10-2024, future uploads when IMDB catches up will not be tied properly into structure and requires admins to go back in and correct these errant episodes.

Recommendation to OS contributors:

Please note that admins track most of the problematic subtitles related to the recent IMDB changes.

Before firing off a PM or a forum post about missing or non-visible subtitle, please be patient and just give the OS site a few days to sync up.

If after several days there is still an issue with your subtitles, please use the contact link at the bottom of the page. Please include all pertinent data and links, along with details of the issue.

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Re: IMDb Update Issues (New TV series)

Fri Feb 23, 2024 5:56 pm

Os, can you fix this.
I already tried the imdb update.
From the 2nd episode, the imdb is wrong.
When i upload the subtitles for ep.3, i get the imdb of 2.ep.
ep4, show the imdb of 3, etc.

https://www.opensubtitles.org/pt/subtit ... ode-1-3-pt
"Ted" Episode #1.3 S01E02 Português (pt) Legendas (2024) 1CD srt

https://www.opensubtitles.org/pt/subtit ... ode-1-4-pt
"Ted" Episode #1.4 S01E03 Português (pt) Legendas



When i search in all languages, this is the list that appears:
https://www.opensubtitles.org/pt/ssearc ... ie-1465386

1. Episode #1.1
2. Episode #1.2
3. Episode #1.4
4. Episode #1.5
5. Episode #1.6
6. He's Gotta Have It
7. He's Gotta Have It
8. Episode #1.8

When i search in PT/PT:
https://www.opensubtitles.org/pt/ssearc ... ie-1465386

1. Episode #1.1
2. Episode #1.3
3. Episode #1.4
4. Episode #1.4
5. Episode #1.5
6. Episode #1.6
7. He's Gotta Have It
8. Episode #1.8

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Re: IMDb Update Issues (New TV series)

Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:48 pm

Reset the errant episodes and updated, should be okay now. Usual issues of uploads with wrong IMDB ID tied to a different episode which skews up the order. Re-sequenced based on user supplied SxxEyy as primary, or revised season and episode based on episode title as secondary.

The non-titled episodes will clear up once they have entries submitted and IMDB updates to retrieve episode data.

https://www.opensubtitles.org/pt/ssearc ... ie-1465386

Season 1
1. Just Say Yes
2. My Two Dads
3. Ejectile Dysfunction
4. Subways, Bicycles and Automobiles
5. Desperately Seeking Susan
6. Loud Night
7. He's Gotta Have It
8. Episode #1.8


https://www.opensubtitles.org/en/ssearc ... ie-1465386

Season 1
1. Just Say Yes
2. My Two Dads
3. Ejectile Dysfunction
4. Subways, Bicycles and Automobiles
5. Episode #1.5
6. Episode #1.6
7. He's Gotta Have It
8. Episode #1.8

Shows current now to 2-23-2024

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Re: IMDb Update Issues (New TV series)

Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:49 pm

Reset the errant episodes and updated, should be okay now. Usual issues of uploads with wrong IMDB ID tied to a different episode which skews up the order. Re-sequenced based on user supplied SxxEyy as primary, or revised season and episode based on episode title as secondary.

The non-titled episodes will clear up once they have entries submitted and IMDB updates to retrieve episode data.

https://www.opensubtitles.org/pt/ssearc ... ie-1465386

Season 1
1. Just Say Yes
2. My Two Dads
3. Ejectile Dysfunction
4. Subways, Bicycles and Automobiles
5. Desperately Seeking Susan
6. Loud Night
7. He's Gotta Have It
8. Episode #1.8


https://www.opensubtitles.org/en/ssearc ... ie-1465386

Season 1
1. Just Say Yes
2. My Two Dads
3. Ejectile Dysfunction
4. Subways, Bicycles and Automobiles
5. Episode #1.5
6. Episode #1.6
7. He's Gotta Have It
8. Episode #1.8

Shows current now to 2-23-2024
Its okay now.
Thanks mrtinkles.

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Re: IMDb Update Issues (New TV series)

Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:41 am

noted and confirmed there is problem. I will try to find time next days to fix it.

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Re: IMDb Update Issues (New TV series)

Mon Mar 04, 2024 3:26 am

good news, it is fixed. run imdb update on those, which are showing old data

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Re: IMDb Update Issues (New TV series)

Wed Mar 13, 2024 1:06 pm

Need update episodes for https://www.opensubtitles.org/en/ssearc ... ie-1494265
I already clicked the IMDB update, nothing happened.
Thank you

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Re: IMDb Update Issues (New TV series)

Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:41 pm

hi it is problematic, Episodes doesnt have air date, so they are not exported from the list we import them, so...
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21990768/e ... =tt_ov_epl

IMDB is piece of SH*T, they dont have normal way for developers to access their data, thats the whole problem. F_cking amazon, when they bought it...

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Re: IMDb Update Issues (New TV series)

Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:25 pm

Why don't you guys using https://www.omdbapi.com/ to update the movies/series?

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Re: IMDb Update Issues (New TV series)

Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:24 pm

because they are missing so much episodes, it is distaster. I was testing it and exactly stuff, which doesnt work here, they dont have also.

it is worth to check actually all the time

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Re: IMDb Update Issues (New TV series)

Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:02 pm

Hi,

Thanks for the hard work.

This series that needs to be update,
https://www.opensubtitles.org/pt/ssearc ... ie-1525617

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15251072/
https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/101099
https://thetvdb.com/series/381536

I have already corrected the IMDB site with missing episodes and title, also added the IMDB id and TVDB id to the TMDB site.

Thanks in advanced.

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