Even if this discussion doesn't lead directly to any results, it's still better to express our thoughts and share them than to bury them inside those super-brains of ours, right?
I certainly learn something new each time, so that's enough reason for me to keep talking.
I had this idea about the redesign of the voting feature during this discussion. I never realized before that on all the sites I know, the place or the way the rating is done is simply wrong. How can you vote right after or even before you download something? You need to see the film first and then come back, but that's such a hassle. I don't know a site where I can review my latest downloaded subtitles and where there is an easy way to vote for them. Well, I'll add it to the subscene wishlist.
Here on OS, you are almost there
. I can see which subtitles I've downloaded, but I can't have them sorted by date of download. That would be great. Well, it's hidden somewhere in my profile, so it would be cool if it was easier to access...
About the kids: If you are 12 years old or so, you are expected to be childish by definition. I believe the majority of subtitle users are in their teens. At least that's what alexa.com statistics and other sources say. Seems like a good explanation why some users are immature...they will grow up
eventually. Just give them ample time.
Every one of us started into the subtitle world as a rookie and we didn't know anything about rules or etiquette or subbing. I mean, sometimes there aren't even any rules to read, and even if there are: who reads them anyway?
I am 100% with you: instead of shock and awe it's much better to explain why something is not so good. I've got a 40% success rate with this approach. Not too shabby. We should never assume that even someone who violates rules repeatedly is a bad guy. Maybe their English is just too bad to even understand our warnings, or they can't see our point, or they just like to annoy the hell out of people who try to tell them what not to do. Well, if I remember correctly, that could have been me a long while ago...
By the way, when I look at my first attempts at subbing, ripping or editing...it's horrible - at least in comparison to what I do now. I think I even removed the annoying credits back then...ahem...ooops. So how can I condemn anybody else?
Speaking of subtitlesource: they have that system where they only have 1 subtitle per release (+1 for HI). That's awesome, provided it is really the best version. I wonder how they do it? Checking each subtitle and comparing it to the existing one? Wow...
Anyway, it's clear and clean and it proves that it can be done. Oh, and they don't even need a voting system since all subtitle are hand-picked and improved by the admins. Intriguing and truly a huge step towards good quality.
I like their user statistics as well. That's where I got the user ratio idea from. Personally, I love statistics. Can't really explain why. If there are statistics that tell me that I have made 0.25% of all postings on OS, then there could be other statistics as well: about my download ratio per subtitle and the average vote and ....whatnot. Personally, I couldn't care less about shiny badges, but I like the feeling when I see that 176580 people have downloaded my subtitles. I also like it when I see that fellow subbers gave me a good vote or people just say thank you. That is indeed one main reason why I try to do my best. Since a good feeling is all we get for our efforts, it can't be overestimated in its importance.
NOTE: It was indeed meant as a joke when I wrote that scooby should keep the credits. He always does!