I have the Trilogy BluRay/DVDs released in 2013 for Star Wars episodes IV-VI. Apparently, the movies have been altered, so the subtitles from the original movies don't work very well. I found a bunch of .srt files for The Empire Strikes Back, but they all seem to be from the original 1980 version, and do not match my DVDs. I could not find any effective way to search for the newer versions.
How would I go about finding the right .srt files for this version of the Trilogy? Thanks!
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Re: Looking for Star Wars subtitles
For release (version) is?
On the site has multiple subtitles with different timing, have you experience one by one.
If you can not find one that has the same sync, you can make the sync, using the subtitle workshop program.
If I knew which release you have, it would be easier to help you.
On the site has multiple subtitles with different timing, have you experience one by one.
If you can not find one that has the same sync, you can make the sync, using the subtitle workshop program.
If I knew which release you have, it would be easier to help you.
Re: Looking for Star Wars subtitles
Is that kind of episode is really important that you need for a sub-title? What if you cannot find a possible solution?I have the Trilogy BluRay/DVDs released in 2013 for Star Wars episodes IV-VI. Apparently, the movies have been altered, so the subtitles from the original movies don't work very well. I found a bunch of .srt files for The Empire Strikes Back, but they all seem to be from the original 1980 version, and do not match my DVDs. I could not find any effective way to search for the newer versions.
How would I go about finding the right .srt files for this version of the Trilogy? Thanks!
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Re: Looking for Star Wars subtitles
Is that kind of episode is really important that you need for a sub-title? What if you cannot find a possible solution?
There is always solution.
If it does not find any subtitles with the same sync, he will have to sync with the subtitle workshop program.
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Re: Looking for Star Wars subtitles
In addition to that:If it does not find any subtitles with the same sync, he will have to sync with the subtitle workshop program.
With this (or similar) subtitling software it is pretty easy to do a resynch yourself which is matching your video file.
Of course the source subtitle file must be well synchronized (for that matching release) and YOUR release should be similar (i.e. NOT another version with added or deleted scenes). If these two criteria are met, it is enough to do a socalled "two-point-resynch": you find the right timing for the FIRST line and the right timing for the LAST line. The software will then adjust all lines inbetween accordingly.
Another way would be to FIRST find available subs, see for which release it is synched, and then get that specific release.
So yeah, there's always a solution
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Re: Looking for Star Wars subtitles
Hi, I do not have the Blue ray "releases" but I reckon they suffer the same fate as in...
As in having altered scenery and dialog.
My collector's box from some years ago had Han Solo shot at in the bar, the original had Solo shoot first.
Several sections were remixed, and the truly original cinema release where a bearded fat guy played Jabba, I never saw that on DVD.
That scene was cut out for its first DVD release (and that DVD had poor and blurry quality, I can tell you.. My VHS had a better copy)
Anyhow, saying it is simply a resynch is not exactly true here, because any release that claims to be the original theatrical cut of star wars, 1974 a new hope, will not match a later DVD nor Bluray.
OK?
Now, let me try walk you through a simple point to point resynch.
You adjust the first easily spotted line to the speech, and set that as synch point.
Then you look for the last easily spotted spoken part, and set that line to that time as second synch point.
You apply, save AS... and then run the file.
Movies that weren't recut, extended, and that came from DVD/BR (not HDTV, which is a nightmare in itself) are usually in sync with your handiwork now.
Movies that were cut up, had scenes added and removed, movies you got from HDTV "releases" from the woolly wonder of the web, they can be a whole other story.
You either wait until some gentle soul puts a LOT of time in, as he will be adjusting timings back and forth and forth and back each time it gets out of sync inbetween...
And, deleting snubbed out speech/adding lines where dialog got added.
You can wait a long time even before anything useful comes up, but once you have something you can work with, it gets easier to make it whole.
To match it to you specialised release/HDTV (whatever)
Often, that will be a really useful thing for others, and I would suggest that if you spent the time fixing something for yourself, that you consider to upload it.
Nothing is ever perfect.
Your first upload can, however, be VERY useful.
When nothing existed that even closely matched the version of that movie, it will get picked up, and some gentle soul may put time in it and improve it.
If he's somewhat honest, he'll even credit you too.
(Grins)
So, for the BR of star wars, I think the 2006 are quite close.
NOTHING that says original or mysterious, of editdroid will match the bluerays od Starwars saga
As an aside, I spent 3 days doing the dutch timings for original wide enhanced (as found on the FAN edit ISO releases, with an almost perfect/but not quite perfect... english sub, which had no Dutch counterpart), which actually has better picture quality than what the original DVD from back then have.
.. hehe, it's called a FAN job for some reason..
So I shuffled and shuffled and retranslated some, and came up with my own preferred translation for 'a new hope'.
Just so you know that making a request is easy, and helping out to fill it ain't always THAT easy.
Of course, that's not- thank god- always the case, because resync and spellcheck is is actually quite easily mastered, and all that needed done.
Kind regards, jt
I looked on ebay, and see people selling the 'I think blurry version' that was an extra bonus in the USofA only 2006 collector's edition.
That is something I have in the mails to me, but I reckon the fan job found on the wholy wonderful web has better picture quality.
We'll see.
°-)
As in having altered scenery and dialog.
My collector's box from some years ago had Han Solo shot at in the bar, the original had Solo shoot first.
Several sections were remixed, and the truly original cinema release where a bearded fat guy played Jabba, I never saw that on DVD.
That scene was cut out for its first DVD release (and that DVD had poor and blurry quality, I can tell you.. My VHS had a better copy)
Anyhow, saying it is simply a resynch is not exactly true here, because any release that claims to be the original theatrical cut of star wars, 1974 a new hope, will not match a later DVD nor Bluray.
OK?
Now, let me try walk you through a simple point to point resynch.
You adjust the first easily spotted line to the speech, and set that as synch point.
Then you look for the last easily spotted spoken part, and set that line to that time as second synch point.
You apply, save AS... and then run the file.
Movies that weren't recut, extended, and that came from DVD/BR (not HDTV, which is a nightmare in itself) are usually in sync with your handiwork now.
Movies that were cut up, had scenes added and removed, movies you got from HDTV "releases" from the woolly wonder of the web, they can be a whole other story.
You either wait until some gentle soul puts a LOT of time in, as he will be adjusting timings back and forth and forth and back each time it gets out of sync inbetween...
And, deleting snubbed out speech/adding lines where dialog got added.
You can wait a long time even before anything useful comes up, but once you have something you can work with, it gets easier to make it whole.
To match it to you specialised release/HDTV (whatever)
Often, that will be a really useful thing for others, and I would suggest that if you spent the time fixing something for yourself, that you consider to upload it.
Nothing is ever perfect.
Your first upload can, however, be VERY useful.
When nothing existed that even closely matched the version of that movie, it will get picked up, and some gentle soul may put time in it and improve it.
If he's somewhat honest, he'll even credit you too.
(Grins)
So, for the BR of star wars, I think the 2006 are quite close.
NOTHING that says original or mysterious, of editdroid will match the bluerays od Starwars saga
As an aside, I spent 3 days doing the dutch timings for original wide enhanced (as found on the FAN edit ISO releases, with an almost perfect/but not quite perfect... english sub, which had no Dutch counterpart), which actually has better picture quality than what the original DVD from back then have.
.. hehe, it's called a FAN job for some reason..
So I shuffled and shuffled and retranslated some, and came up with my own preferred translation for 'a new hope'.
Just so you know that making a request is easy, and helping out to fill it ain't always THAT easy.
Of course, that's not- thank god- always the case, because resync and spellcheck is is actually quite easily mastered, and all that needed done.
Kind regards, jt
I looked on ebay, and see people selling the 'I think blurry version' that was an extra bonus in the USofA only 2006 collector's edition.
That is something I have in the mails to me, but I reckon the fan job found on the wholy wonderful web has better picture quality.
We'll see.
°-)
Re: Looking for Star Wars subtitles
For what it's worth..
I bought The USA dvds of episodes 1,2 and 3 and have not had the pleasure to compare those to retail European versions.
Why do I bring this up?
Not just the region free DVD player machine you require to play it on a DVD player (region free can be bought when you travel outside Europe.. which I have. There may be other ways nowadays.).
... but also the framerate conversion algorythm involved.
In my PC, DVDfab will default to original framerate of the source, most often 25fps.
Same movie, in 23.976fps plays (did you do the math?) longer.
Some rips and older files can be found at 30fps, and same movie can be at 24 (or 23.976) or 25fps.
NTSC and PAL at work, and a bit of cinematography from way back, where NTSC and PAL has to do with Hertz on the eletricity network (about 60Hz, that made 30fps interleaved NTSC.. and 50Hz made 25fps interleaved quite convenient for transmission over antenna for PAL/secam.)
Cinematoscopy also played its part. 24 is lowest frame speed ever used in cinema, I think. Under 18 the eye sees flickering images, because the reticence of the blue cells in the eye will trick us into a homogenous movement above 18.. it is better to have it higher, and cost constraints and film quality prohibited 50 or 60, so they used a minimum of 24 and 36 fps for quite some time.)
So...
The movie had 36fps or whatever, and for TV it had to be converted to PAL or NTSC, which was, well, different.
It got speeded up or slowed down, depending on source.
And that's why we see different playtime for exactly the same 'cut" of a movie, if the source was European or American, which also means, that it is sometimes possible to convert a poor copy to an acceptable copy by changing the framerate, and, albeit seldom needed, by looking at the setting for interleave.
What you get in digital form can be fun to experiment on, that's what I suggested there in these last few lines.
But, it was about resynching.
You just read the reason why same movie can have different playtime eventhough it is exactlly the same "cut".
And those, they are easily resynched.
While you do it, do a spell check.
Are there many bloopers and such, it may be the time to help us to the improved version.
See?
It's easy.
Kinda.
Kind regards, jt.
I bought The USA dvds of episodes 1,2 and 3 and have not had the pleasure to compare those to retail European versions.
Why do I bring this up?
Not just the region free DVD player machine you require to play it on a DVD player (region free can be bought when you travel outside Europe.. which I have. There may be other ways nowadays.).
... but also the framerate conversion algorythm involved.
In my PC, DVDfab will default to original framerate of the source, most often 25fps.
Same movie, in 23.976fps plays (did you do the math?) longer.
Some rips and older files can be found at 30fps, and same movie can be at 24 (or 23.976) or 25fps.
NTSC and PAL at work, and a bit of cinematography from way back, where NTSC and PAL has to do with Hertz on the eletricity network (about 60Hz, that made 30fps interleaved NTSC.. and 50Hz made 25fps interleaved quite convenient for transmission over antenna for PAL/secam.)
Cinematoscopy also played its part. 24 is lowest frame speed ever used in cinema, I think. Under 18 the eye sees flickering images, because the reticence of the blue cells in the eye will trick us into a homogenous movement above 18.. it is better to have it higher, and cost constraints and film quality prohibited 50 or 60, so they used a minimum of 24 and 36 fps for quite some time.)
So...
The movie had 36fps or whatever, and for TV it had to be converted to PAL or NTSC, which was, well, different.
It got speeded up or slowed down, depending on source.
And that's why we see different playtime for exactly the same 'cut" of a movie, if the source was European or American, which also means, that it is sometimes possible to convert a poor copy to an acceptable copy by changing the framerate, and, albeit seldom needed, by looking at the setting for interleave.
What you get in digital form can be fun to experiment on, that's what I suggested there in these last few lines.
But, it was about resynching.
You just read the reason why same movie can have different playtime eventhough it is exactlly the same "cut".
And those, they are easily resynched.
While you do it, do a spell check.
Are there many bloopers and such, it may be the time to help us to the improved version.
See?
It's easy.
Kinda.
Kind regards, jt.
Re: Looking for Star Wars subtitles
Wow! You have DVDs of star wars rebels 2013!! That’s really interesting. I love watching this TV series. Whenever I miss any episode I watch that online. I wonder from where I can buy these DVDs!!
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